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Kudos' to VVAW for posting this on VVAWnet. I hope VVAW will show further leadership and act on it. This particular individual has been an ongoing problem with VVAW and VFP for years in my opinion. I first called attention to what appears to be a cointel operative two years ago, the beginning of the end for the Eugene Chapter of VFP. When truth is sacrificed for the sake of harmony within the membership, that organization becomes a social club.
Gordon


----- Original Message -----
From: Gordon Sturrock
To: VVAW Net
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [vvawnet] "Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact alQaeda, " ABC News, November 9, 2009


VFP and VVAW violate their dedication to non-violence by going beyond reasonable support of free speech and allowing their media resources to be used for distributing such obvious propaganda as this post.
There is good reason to suspect that this Fort Hood disaster is being played out into a "Kristallnacht " type of event with intent to generate intense hate towards Muslims and Palestinians.
Notice almost all references in this post are coming from ABCnews, owned by Disney, a company well known for creating magical places of delusion and fantasy. In addition, the forwarder of this post has repeatedly been discredited as dishonest, untruthful, promoting outright advocacy and apologetics for military intervention and/or occupations, and kicked out of numerous lists as a result.
Why does VFP and VVAW, both committed to non-violence tolerate the sustained violence of lies and hate from one highly persistent source? Why aren't they following the lead of VFPDiscussion and VFPTalk and banning the source? What would either organization do if a member was hell bent on promoting an anti-Semitic campaign of misinformation?

Gordon Sturrock
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----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Woloshin
To: VVAW Net ; VFP All ; ChapterContacts, Vets for Peace
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:56 AM
Subject: [vvawnet] "Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda, " ABC News, November 9, 2009



Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Army Major in Fort Hood Massacre Used 'Electronic Means' to Connect with Terrorists
By RICHARD ESPOSITO, MATTHEW COLE and BRIAN ROSS
Nov. 9, 2009 —

U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News.
It is not known whether the intelligence agencies informed the Army that one of its officers was seeking to connect with suspected al Qaeda figures, the officials said.
Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-MI), the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, said that he requested the CIA and other intelligence agencies brief the committee on what was known, if anything, about Hasan by the U.S. intelligence community, only to be refused.
In response, Hoekstra issued a document preservation request to four intelligence agencies. The letter, dated November 7th, was sent to directors Dennis Blair (DNI), Robert Mueller (FBI), Lt. Gen Keith Alexander (NSA) and Leon Panetta (CIA).
Hoekstra said he is "absolutely furious" that the house intel committee has been refused an intelligence briefing by the DNI or CIA on Hasan's attempt to reach out to al Qaeda, as first reported by ABC News.
"This is a law enforcement investigation, in which other agenciesnot the CIAhave the lead," CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano said in a response to ABC News. " Any suggestion that the CIA refused to brief Congress is incorrect."
Investigators want to know if Hasan maintained contact with a radical mosque leader from Virginia, Anwar al Awlaki, who now lives in Yemen and runs a web site that promotes jihad around the world against the U.S.
In a blog posting early Monday titled "Nidal Hassan Did the Right Thing," Awlaki calls Hasan a "hero" and a "man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people."
According to his site, Awlaki served as an imam in Denver, San Diego and Falls Church, Virginia.
The Associated Press reported Sunday that Major Hasan attended the Falls Church mosque when Awlaki was there.


The Telegraph of London reported that Awlaki had made contact with two of the 9/11 hijackers when he was in San Diego.
He denied any knowledge of the hijacking plot and was never charged with any crime. After an intensive investigation by the FBI , Awlaki moved to Yemen.
People who knew or worked with Hasan say he seemed to have gradually become more radical in his disapproval of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
On Sunday, Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) called for an investigation into whether the Army missed signs as to whether Hasan was an Islamic extremist.
"If Hasan was showing signs, saying to people that he had become an Islamist extremist, the U.S. Army has to have a zero tolerance," Lieberman told Fox News Sunday.


Army Chief of Staff
A fellow Army doctor who studied with Hasan, Val Finell, told ABC News, "He would frequently say he was a Muslim first and an American second. And that came out in just about everything he did at the University."
Finell said he and other Army doctors complained to superiors about Hasan's statements.
"And we questioned how somebody could take an oath of office&be an officer in the military and swear allegiance to the constitution and to defend America against all enemies, foreign and domestic and have that type of conflict," Finell told ABC News.
The Army Chief of Staff, General George Casey, raised concerns over the weekend that innocent Muslim soldiers could suffer as a result of the shooting at Fort Hood.
"I think the speculation (on Hasan's Islamic roots) could potentially heighten backlash against some of our Muslim soldiers," he said on ABC's "This Week."
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This is video is of good intention to show some love for the Muslim community during this time of tragedy, regarding what just happened at the military base Ft Hood. As well as expressing a concern and compassion to the family's and those affected the most and who were the closest. The message goes to the world as well for we are all connected

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu210VohrRo
Filmed in Portland on 11.23.09

Produced for the reason of sending an open letter to the world by concerned citizens who want to continue spreading peace and love.

In the wake of the recent tragedy at Ft Hood a group of students contacted me to send a video message to the world.
The following video was their idea ... I like it
It was a message of peace

We all met in the park block around lunch time and made the following message to share and encourage others.

It is a reminder to recognize and not see the act of one person, be treated in a manner where hate spreads to innocent communities.

This is a time when understanding and compassion is being called for ...
we concerned citizens are sending it and wanted to share it with everyone we knew

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